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That came out really great. The record I dont have,
your second solo album, where did you record that?
It was at Sunshine. That was going back to Brisbane, the one I
did with Tony Cohen. I just wanted to go back to my hometown and
record after the big Berlin thing. The material that I was writing
just lead me in this direction, I just wanted to go back to a studio
that did jingles. That might do the odd country act. I wanted to
get back to that.
In my personal life, my wife and I wanted to move back to my hometown
and I started to go out to venues and look at musicians in my hometown
and I made that type of record.
Are you happy with that one?
I am. The songs probably arent as good. The songs probably
arent as strong as on Danger in the Past. I like the sound
of it. Its a smaller, homey sound. Its like a Neve desk
and a small recording room. Its a little more boxy which is
the sound I wanted to go for. I didnt want to make another
big record. The sound of the record is more important to me. I wanted
to go for lo-fi later on. Its the way I wanted to go. I wanted
to make more Brisbane, lets-put-a-couple-of-mics-up-around-a-lounge
room record. More casual, a little bit more time. I should have
followed my convictions a little bit more. Theres a record
of mine that I produced, I did that. I should have maybe of gone
a little bit more funkier. I like it. Theres sort of a dark
star of everything that Id gotten.
Then there was Warm Nights, that last record, with Edwyn
Collins producing, right?
He is a complete and utter studio sound obsessive. He buys gear
on the road, like when hes on the road he goes to vintage
sound shops. And buys things that he takes back to his studio. You
know, like, the record company people are trying to get him to do
interviews and he goes off and buys gear. Hes got a 16-track
Neve that he bought years ago for a ridiculous price that people
would now pay in the millions. Hes got a great microphone
collection.
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You did the whole record on his personal studio?
It was the first record that he had done in the studio.
I just wanted to go for more rhythmic sound, a lot more
muddy sort of Creedencey. I was listening to
a lot more Atlantic records like the late 60s, early 70s.
Just two mics on the drums and a really warm bass.
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The title sounds like the sound of the record. I always think
of that one as being a fuzzy warm record.
Edwyns always been a big Al Green fan and hes listened
to and appreciates a lot more 70s black music than I have. Its
a lot more swampy and a lot of it we just did as a three-piece like
the drums, bass and guitar. We kept everything like most of those
tracks were just the three of us playing and then wed come
in and wed overdub really lightly. I really like that record.
Its my favorite... I have to say Danger in the Past is my
second favorite.
One of the reasons I thought about doing the interview is
that the Go-Betweens records and your records had a real different
feel to them.
Yeah, my three albums of original material have been Berlin, Brisbane
and London and its been Mick Harvey, myself, Edwyn Collins
producing. With records its really like casting to me, the
songs start to get a feel. I want to talk about form. I can imagine
going down to Tucson, theres a feel in that Calexico album
and its just amazing. You just get into it. You know the Band
albums that you were talking about. You just get into a feeling
and youve just got to follow it. Sometimes you might want
to make an 80s digital gated drum-type record.
Its ironic.
Now its ironic. Edwyn and I will be recording those drums
and Edwyn will just go bum, bum, bum and hell
get the gated drum sound just for a joke. He is really lucky because
when his studio opened, people would come in, like the big producers
around town would go in and go, What the fuck is going on
here? Were never gonna bring anything in here. But the
good thing about is he had earned enough money off A Girl
Like You. He built the studio he wanted to build and so he
doesnt have to buy all the latest toys.
To sell the studio.
Yeah, to sell the studio. Because he doesnt need anyone else
to come in. His studio reminds me a lot of Lee Scratch
Perry with his studio in the 70s. Its exactly the sort of
thing it is and its personal. Its like, This is
the sound of the studio and not fishing for top 40 acts. Not fishing
for some sort of generic indie rock thing. This is the way I want
my records to sound and its a very personalized thing
and thats what I love about what he does.
I like that. It had a great feel. How long did you spend
on that?
It was actually quite long. It took about six weeks but he was
still involved with the promotional period of A Girl like
You. This was still going on. And so, thered be things
like him taking two days off to go to Sweden and then hed
come back and then This TV show wants you...
A lot of interruptions while you were trying to work on it.
And it was the first album he did so when I walked into the studio
on the first day, he had a soldering iron and was on the ground.
I was like, Okay, alright, were not gonna be getting
sounds in the first two hours. But thats whats
great about Edwyn, hes very much a producer/engineer and hes
very much out there on his hands and knees putting the mics beside
the Fender speakers. Hes very hands-on.
The only other solo record is the covers record which you
produced. Was that done with Tony Cohen?
No. That was done at a studio, a good studio down in Melbourne.
The record Im not that keen about.
Its not your songs, first off, you know. I think some
of them were great, I think the Grant Hart cover is one of my favorites.
Yeah, thats good. Theres a few good things on it, but
I hadnt written any songs for a long time and there were a
lot of songs from around 1989-90 and I recorded the album in 1994
so it was already past the period that I was covering.
You were infatuated with these songs?
Yeah. It was about five years old, I dont know what I was
doing. It was one of those things to start things off that I shouldnt
have done.
The title is from Jonathan Richman. But you didnt do
that son on there.
No, no. I tried to do one of Jonathan songs but I wracked my brain
for months trying to think of songs and I wanted to do a song of
his called Important in Your Life because it was like
a great song.
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